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Offline alawston Reading The Cambridge List - Robert Clear
24 Jul 2012, 10:46 AM | Post: #11

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Continuing on the devil's advocate theme - why not just release it as a single e-book? If people can release a 3,000 word short story and call it a book, surely the other end of the scale has to apply as well.

300,000 words is a big book, sure, but it's not unprecedented. The length of paperbacks are limited by various practical decisions at the printer's end, this doesn't really apply so much to digital books.
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24 Jul 2012, 11:02 AM | Post: #12

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Would you be releasing them all at the same time, or staggering them?

One of the things that can put people off is having to wait ages for the next part and sometimes I will wait for a series to be either complete or well on the way before starting it. If you released them all at the same time, I think people would buy it much more readily as they know that if they've enjoyed the first part, they can get straight into the next one.
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24 Jul 2012, 11:27 AM | Post: #13

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I was annoyed when I read a book (I think it was facebook killers) and it just stopped. Not quite in mid sentence, but not far off.
I have not bought books when I know that I will have to get the follow ons to finish the story.

Is it possible to have the first one as more of a stand-alone, so can be classed as a completed story, then the follow on books just enhance the story / world / characters?
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Offline Andy Barrett Reading Letter for Maureen - Jonathan Hill
24 Jul 2012, 11:20 PM | Post: #14

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(24 Jul 2012 09:53 AM)GlynThincs Wrote:  
Quote: I know what you mean when you ask if it needs to be that long, but it does. I could shorten it by chopping out one of the main characters and his story, but it would detract massively from the story I'm trying to get across. I've chiselled about 30k words from it but it's still too long for one single book.

I'm quite lucky I suppose, in that each book (apart from the last, obviously) ends on a cliff-hanger and a fairly natural stopping point.

You really need to make a map of structure and continuity to sustain the three books and thread that through in a way that makes it possible to read 2 and 3 independently whilst satisfying the 'through readers'.
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Thanks Glyn, of course you're right about mapping the structure, and had I began the book anticipating it being so long, then I would have built in separate stories to conclude at the 100k mark, or pulled on the handbrake to keep it short in the first instance.

But I decided I wanted to include everything that was pertinent to the story and to the two protagonists, and build a detailed linear story. And now I've done it I have some tough decisions to make regarding its future.

(24 Jul 2012 10:46 AM)alawston Wrote:  Continuing on the devil's advocate theme - why not just release it as a single e-book? If people can release a 3,000 word short story and call it a book, surely the other end of the scale has to apply as well.

300,000 words is a big book, sure, but it's not unprecedented. The length of paperbacks are limited by various practical decisions at the printer's end, this doesn't really apply so much to digital books.

Good point, alawston, I'll be giving this option a lot of thought too.
Offline Andy Barrett Reading Letter for Maureen - Jonathan Hill
24 Jul 2012, 11:28 PM | Post: #15

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RE: A 'trilogy' or...

(24 Jul 2012 11:02 AM)Lou Wrote:  Would you be releasing them all at the same time, or staggering them?

One of the things that can put people off is having to wait ages for the next part and sometimes I will wait for a series to be either complete or well on the way before starting it. If you released them all at the same time, I think people would buy it much more readily as they know that if they've enjoyed the first part, they can get straight into the next one.

Hi Lou, yes if I were to go down the three book route, I would ensure they were all released together; I agree it would be very unfair to leave people hanging on for the next.

(24 Jul 2012 11:27 AM)joo Wrote:  I was annoyed when I read a book (I think it was facebook killers) and it just stopped. Not quite in mid sentence, but not far off.
I have not bought books when I know that I will have to get the follow ons to finish the story.

Is it possible to have the first one as more of a stand-alone, so can be classed as a completed story, then the follow on books just enhance the story / world / characters?

Hi Joo, the way the book is constructed just now it wouldn't really be possible to have the first book as a stand-alone. I've had people read it already, and they do feel satisfied that it was a good story, but of course they knew there was much more to follow.

I was interested to read that wouldn't buy a book if you know you have to buy others in order to finish the story; I'll have to take that on board when making a decision too.

I recall quite a few years ago, Stephen King released the Green Mile in six (I think) mini-books. I bought them all and enjoyed them just as much as I would have had I bought it one big book.

Anyway, thanks everyone for your replies. I certainly have a lot of thinking to do, and I'll let you know it finally works out.
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But people knew of Stephen King. Your problem is you are an unknown and people will have to gamble on you.
Your fans would probably happily buy the books, but you need to hook them first.
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Thanks for all your replies; they have gone a long way towards helping me solve my little dilemma. I've taken on board your comments, and the consensus suggests publishing The Third Rule in one book is the better and safer option.

I was really afraid of annoying readers by having the one story split into three volumes, and despite plastering the covers with 'Part One', 'Part Two', and 'Part Three', there was always the risk of getting it wrong and leaving the reader feeling cheated.

The Third Rule is away being read for the second time to iron out any remaining typos. Once that and the final editing is sorted, we can play with covers and formatting. The formatting will be interesting because the book features half a dozen pages set out as newspaper type. Oh, and there are one or two other very interesting (tricky) formatting issues including a crossword puzzle-type grid. Since I don't actually do the formatting myself, I can just sit back and tap my fingers.

Anyway, once again, may thanks for taking the time to help me out.

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