Incomplete book pages
Has anyone else experienced the same symptoms? Was it book specific or a fault with the kindle itself. I have the kindle touch, 4 months of use since new.
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Incomplete book pagesHas anyone else experienced the same symptoms? Was it book specific or a fault with the kindle itself. I have the kindle touch, 4 months of use since new.
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RE: Incomplete book pagesCheers, Jonathan |
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RE: Incomplete book pagesI have tried returning to the same spot in the book a day or so later and sometimes the issue is there and sometimes it is not (loc 8950 in The Soul Scarab). I guess I will have to wait and see if it recurs on a different book to check that it is just not an issue of a corrupted download.
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RE: Incomplete book pagesI will try to explain! Ebooks don't have "pages - each chapter / section in a book is actually just one "page" - a bit like an ancient Egyptian scroll - and the Kindle's screen is like a "window" on a particular section of the scroll. In an idea world, the Kindle would load the entire book into memory, and then just move the window around, as you pressed the page buttons. However, this would require a lot of memory and books would be very slow to open, especially as it has to take into account that some books (anthologies) have thousands of pages. So what it does is locate the "window" in the scroll and print just the window to the screen, so that only that "window" is loaded into memory - a few hundred words at most. However, these is a problem with this - sometimes the formatting overlaps the "window" - e.g. some italic text starts on the page BEFORE and ends on the page AFTER the current "window". So although all the text in the "window" should be italic, there is no instruction on that particular page to say "do this in italics". Because of these circumstances, the Kindle knows that it has to go back a bit (and forward a bit) so that it actually loads a bit more than the current screen into memory. This is where things start to go wrong. If the italics begin on the immediate page before then that is going to be fine, but some of the more obscure processing instructions might begin several pages before, and so they can get 'lost' because it hasn't got enough memory to go all that far back. In the worst-case scenario, which we are seeing here, the missing formatting actually causes the Kindle's "renderer" (the thing that writes the text to the screen) to crash. (The reason is fails going "page forward" but works if you go forward again, and then click "back" is that you have a slightly different portion of "scroll" in memory at that point, thus avoiding the crash.) |
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RE: Incomplete book pagesIf you store a lot of books on your Kindle and don't want the hassle of doing that, just hope it's only the one book that's causing the issue and it doesn't reoccur with any others! |
RE: Incomplete book pages(15 Jul 2012 10:23 AM)J.S.Egan Wrote: frogplate is sort-of right - it is to do with memory; but it is also going to be caused by specific books. Actually I was entirely wrong - I thought it might be a garbage-collection problem (where the Kindle fails to recover chunks of memory after it has finished using them) but this explanation - a sliding window bug seems much more convincing. It might also explain a problem I had with Terry Pratchett's Snuff where returning from any of the numerous footnotes would screw up the formatting of the paragraph containing the footnote reference when it was redisplayed. |
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RE: Incomplete book pages I redownloaded it after deleting it but the same thing happened - it would either have an incomplete page or would tell me I was at the end of the book amazon advised that it could be a problem with the providers of the book in that the coding could be wrong they said they were going to contact them and take the book off sale till then - I am not sure if they have contacted them but I have deleted it and they have refunded me - i hope it is cured soon as I was 36% of the way through and it was just getting interesting
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RE: Incomplete book pagesI've had same incomplete pages and premature end of book problems on quite a few books. I had put it down to incorrect formatting, but I'm pretty sure that it hadn't occurred before I received an automatic software update a month or two back. It only seems to happen on th cheaper or free books that I have got from Amazon and has never happened with books from the more established authors who presumably use professional editors/formatters. I'm not sure how the formatting thing works, so I could be taking out of my backside, but ... My wife who also has the same problem with some of the books she is reading on her KT. Interestingly, we have both found that with the premature end of book problem, sometimes it is impossible to get past that page, but if you leave things as they are for 30 seconds or so, it merrily continues to the next page as if nothing has happened. Ultimately, it is an Amazon/Kindle Touch problem for not handling bad formatting sensibly, but I don't suppose they will ever admit that. Paul
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