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Is the Higgs Boson the 'God' Particle?

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Offline frogplate Reading Scar Night - Alan Campbell
07 Jul 2012, 10:03 PM | Post: #21

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(06 Jul 2012 09:40 PM)George Hamilton Wrote:  It's at times like these that I wish my physics lessons had amounted to more than, "Boys, open your textbooks at page 25 and copy to page 35." Sad, but true.

Too true! When I did A-level Physics we had a teacher who would explain things in a perfunctory way and then write detailed notes on the blackboard which we had to transcribe verbatim. One day he walked into class and immediately started scratching away on the blackboard. Forty-five minutes later when the bell rang and he had walked out again we realised we that he had not uttered a single word throughout the whole lesson - not even a greeting on arrival.

In contrast I had a brilliant physics teacher at University who made every experiment an entertainment. I'll never forget Newton's Laws of Motion and centripetal force both demonstrated with students hurtling around on office chairs.

Unfortunately just as we were getting into the really interesting fundamental particle stuff I had to give up Physics as I'd heard the siren call of the PDP-8 hidden away in the basement.
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RE: Is the Higgs Boson the 'God' Particle?

Back when I was studying physics at uni at the turn of the century some of us believed that there was a major change coming in physics, things were getting more complicated, it looked like how things were before relativity in some ways. A new set of theories was expected that would combine in exotic and complicated ways to explain everything.

I hope understanding of the Higgs will lead to this but I think we've got a bit of a way to go yet. Still exciting times though.
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(08 Jul 2012 10:27 PM)mountainmetman Wrote:  Back when I was studying physics at uni at the turn of the century some of us believed that there was a major change coming in physics, things were getting more complicated, it looked like how things were before relativity in some ways. A new set of theories was expected that would combine in exotic and complicated ways to explain everything.

I hope understanding of the Higgs will lead to this but I think we've got a bit of a way to go yet. Still exciting times though.

To my mind, the strongest evidence that a paradigm shift is due is the reliance on "dark matter" to explain why Newton's laws of gravity plus relativity don't explain the Universe we see out there. The equations are *way* out, so lets just add enormous quantities of mass to the Universe which doesn't otherwise interact. Occum's razor applies here...

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In response to the title- Why these are called God particles! Because these higgs boson particles are involved in formation of universe, the creation. God is the creator; so we call these god particles. In other words, these create the universe.
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(09 Jul 2012 04:01 AM)DrDLN Wrote:  In response to the title- Why these are called God particles! Because these higgs boson particles are involved in formation of universe, the creation. God is the creator; so we call these god particles. In other words, these create the universe.

They were involved in the 'formation' of the universe, but not its creation. They probably didn't have any effect until sometime after 10^-12 seconds (a trillionth of a second) after the Universe popped into existence.
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RE: Is the Higgs Boson the 'God' Particle?

I just found this thread and tried to do some reading about CERN's discovery of Higg's but I have to be honest I didn't really understand most of it - physics tends to go right over my head Huh

It does seem exciting though that we're making all these new discoveries about the foundation/formation of the Universe - where it will all end up though seems to be anyone's guess.
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(06 Jul 2012 08:08 AM)LexiRevellian Wrote:  They were involved in the 'formation' of the universe, but not its creation. They probably didn't have any effect until sometime after 10^-12 seconds (a trillionth of a second) after the Universe popped into existence.

One of the things that I find most intriguing is what happened immediately before the Universe 'popped into existence'...
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