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Offline 1949dodge
01 Dec 2011, 10:55 PM | Post: #1

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Kindle Fire in the UK

I've had my Fire about a week now and I really enjoy reading books and PDF's on it. The screen is really clear and crisp - but is still no match for the e-ink Kindles when it comes to fingerprints or sun!

Buying books (from an Amazon.co.uk account), reading them and sync'ing with other Kindle readers, work really well – I do welcome being able to see the covers in colour and see the book titles at the top of each page.

Browsing the web works well for me. Photos likewise – it’s worth making sure they are suitably sized and with the appropriate resolution rather than straight out of a high resolution camera.

I don’t need to use it for email so haven’t bothered to set it up

OK, the Fire is not fully operational in the UK –

Prime does not work outside of the US (as is well known).

Apps - I have not yet found a way to order apps from the Amazon Appstore, though others seem to have done so. I've tried setting up an Amazon.com account and loading it with a gift certificate but it still wants a credit card to enable 1-click (even though I'm only trying for free apps), but even when I add one, the app store knows I’m not in the US - if anyone has found how to do this, I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one grateful to hear how! If you do decide to set up an Amazon.com account and re-register the Fire to that account, you’ll lose all your settings, bookmarks, apps in the process – and any books you’ve downloaded!

For the benefit of anyone else having a Fire in the UK, you may want to note the following:

iPlayer - in order to use BBC iPlayer, turn OFF the Web acceleration - otherwise iPlayer thinks you're in the US and won't show you UK content. (on a Web page, press the menu icon on the bottom and choose settings, go down to Advanced and untick Accelerate page loading. While there, look at the Desktop or mobile view settings - I prefer desktop view - also allows full screen in iPlayer). Turning off the acceleration also lets you see UK focused content - but it's probably slower.

If you're a Dropbox user, you can download and install the Dropbox app from the Dropbox site (google for details) - works well for photos, Office files and PDF’s but you need to open them first while in WiFi range and they then get stored locally.

Home videos need to be in MP4 format and need to be copied to the Pictures folder via the USB link - and then opened with the Gallery photo app (which is fortunately pre-installed). Also works via Dropbox, but quicker via USB. Haven’t tried converting any commercial videos.

Quick Office (pre-installed) allows you to view Office docs, worksheets and Powerpoint files - but not to edit or save them or create new ones. I've tried to upgrade to Pro directly from their website, but currently without success as Kindle is not listed. Might try other Android devices on their list to see if any work.

I briefly owned a Blackberry Playbook, which, superficially, looks very similar and also has some very good features. It’s not restricted by geography like the Fire, but it is restricted by the lack of a Kindle app – and other apps. Although Kindle Cloud Reader does work, I never really got the hang of making sure the books I wanted were available when I wanted them (in or out of WiFi range). The books were more important to me, so the Playbook was replaced with the Fire. Both great devices but neither currently perfect for me.

Hopefully some folk will have found ways to improve the Fire's usability.
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01 Dec 2011, 11:11 PM | Post: #2

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An excellent post Dodge. It sounds like you've really put it through its paces and managed to get quite a few things working. Now if you can just crack the App problem ...
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02 Dec 2011, 08:05 AM | Post: #3

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This post was last modified: 02 Dec 2011 08:06 AM by carryonvending.
Well Done Dodge... It seems between the two of us with are getting some funtionality in the UK. I will try registering to my UK account over the weekend.

APPS bought and loaded in the USA, work perfectly.

Great Iplayer tip.... that will be done over the weekend too.

With my 30meg VM pipe, I was able to watch http://www.liveonlinefooty.com football games using their HD download.

Already using Dropbox & Quick Office & Twitter - all work fine.

PDF viewing is great, however so far The Carousel using a PLAIN HEADER, rather than a 'first screen picture' as on PCs.

Fuego.... My Kindle Fire now sits in my 'man handbag' and goes everywhere with me. many Hot Spots already added especially Costa Coffee.


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Offline carryonvending Reading Friend Request - David Wailing
03 Dec 2011, 08:24 AM | Post: #4

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Fuego now up to speed. Used the 'I need a price for a machine' App (Pdf of our price structure) LOL

Took the previous advice and my Iplayer works a treat.

Optimised my Google mobile. Plus Twitter (I love the Mobile format)

Off to Costa Coffee to drink coffee (really) and watch THE CAFE again.

BTW if you change any settings - DON'T FORGET TO REBOOT.

Thats that..............Can't wait now for my NOKIA LUMIA 800 in Cyan to arrive on Monday. What a Techie Christmas I will have.
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I forgot to ask how KUF displays in the browser - does it look ok?
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Offline 1949dodge
03 Dec 2011, 10:34 AM | Post: #6

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RE: Kindle Fire in the UK

KUF looks ok - all I've seen is as expected, though I haven't been on to every page. I do use Desktop view rather than Mobile view on the Fire.

As a follow on to my previous post, installing Dropbox has, for me, been the key to installing other apps. Once I find (using a pc) the APK file I want, I send it to Dropbox, then when Dropbox on the Fire gets it, simply select the APK to load it (need to enable Fire settings - Device - Allow installation of applications from unknown sources). Without a File Manager type app, Dropbox provides the way.

PandaApp seems to have a number of Apps with their APK files, but I've no doubt there are other sites too, including the developers' own websites
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04 Dec 2011, 08:37 AM | Post: #7

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This post was last modified: 04 Dec 2011 08:41 AM by carryonvending.
Dodge - You are now my HERO

Where are you getting the Apps from to put into DROPBOX ?

Please can you send some links of ones you recommend

I take it - your Kindle is standard not rooted?

Found this site APK files
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04 Dec 2011, 04:05 PM | Post: #8

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Thanks for the "Hero" status - but I only started posting because I was hoping to get some help from others who'd already got further than I had - but ended up having to go it alone. The frustration of no longer having a Playbook or other device capable of taking notes and letting me edit docs drove me to experiment. Also having a (partially disabled) WiFi device just begged for Dropbox. Now if I could get Evernote to work as well....

No I haven't rooted my Fire - I wouldn't go that route if I wasn't certain I could get back again!

I've taken a look at

http://download.pandaapp.com/

and used some apps with success. Some fail to load or are clearly designed for a small phone screen and while the background might stretch, some other bits (incl some text) don't and they're not useable to me as a result. Some apps fail to recognise the Fire as Android and don't work.

Not sure where the apps come from as there appear to be some regular commercial ones there - so some caution may be needed.

It's perhaps worth remembering that to reboot the Fire requires holding down the power button for quite a few seconds. Then wait, press again and 'Kindle Fire' should (eventually) appear on the screen - and then wait till it's ready. One app I tried may have temporarily messed things up, but a reboot and a delete of the offending app soon resolved that.
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07 Dec 2011, 09:47 AM | Post: #9

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This post was last modified: 07 Dec 2011 10:11 AM by Tulipone.
I have managed to install Dropbox (instructions at: http://apocryph.org... to my Fire.

From the link in 1949dodge's post, I managed to install eCalendar and HandyCalc and both work fine. The icons are not pleasant to look at though!

Chris
Offline Claire78
08 Dec 2011, 10:57 AM | Post: #10

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RE: Kindle Fire in the UK

Hi

Very interested in the above posts. I am from UK but living in Qatar. Desperately want a Kindle Fire and trying to find out what I can about functionality outside of US. I can see from some posts that US credit card appears to be needed for apps. Is this not also the case for buying books? Also does it need to be registered with a US address? They are actually being sold in Virgin here in Qatar but the staff just looked at me blankly when I asked about functionality. I have also read that part of the problem with UK use is that Amazon Cloud is not fully developed (although I frankly don't really know what this means). Is this a problem in UK? If so I'm sure it will be more of a problem in Qatar. Totally confused and any advice on the UK usage (in the most laymans terms possible please!) would probably help me to work out what may or may not work here in Qatar. Thanks so much, Claire
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