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Offline Mike1948
17 Jul 2011, 01:21 PM | Post: #1

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Downloading e Books

I am keen to get started with Kindle by ordering a Kindle wi fi and downloading my choice of Kindle e books.
I live in Cyprus but have a BFPO (i.e London UK) delivery and billing address, a UK Sterling Debit Card, and pay UK VAT for Amazon goods ordered from the Amazon UK website. There seems to be no problem in obtaining the Kindle itself from Amazon UK. However, I am informed that because I live outside the UK I can only download e Books from Amazon.com. Stangely I am told by Amazon.com that although I can buy books from them I can only buy the Kindle itself from Amazon UK!! This seems a strange anomoly and not justified by any legal, tax, or web constraints. I am not sure if Kindle via UK and the e Books via USA poses any problems and in any event the choice and pricing is entirely different across the two web sites. I cannot see why it is not possible to buy the Kindle and e Books from the same location. Any ideas/suggestions?
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RE: Downloading e Books

(17 Jul 2011 01:21 PM)Mike1948 Wrote:  I am keen to get started with Kindle by ordering a Kindle wi fi and downloading my choice of Kindle e books.
I live in Cyprus but have a BFPO (i.e London UK) delivery and billing address, a UK Sterling Debit Card, and pay UK VAT for Amazon goods ordered from the Amazon UK website. There seems to be no problem in obtaining the Kindle itself from Amazon UK. However, I am informed that because I live outside the UK I can only download e Books from Amazon.com. Stangely I am told by Amazon.com that although I can buy books from them I can only buy the Kindle itself from Amazon UK!! This seems a strange anomoly and not justified by any legal, tax, or web constraints. I am not sure if Kindle via UK and the e Books via USA poses any problems and in any event the choice and pricing is entirely different across the two web sites. I cannot see why it is not possible to buy the Kindle and e Books from the same location. Any ideas/suggestions?

You "may" need an answer from someone who knows the facts about Wifi and 3G, too.

There is a thread about the 3G access to various sites, which may be a (separate) issue, because of the whispernet contracts that Amazon uses with national mobile network providers, but this is not relevant if you are buying a Wifi Only Kindle.

Of course, you do not *have* to buy all your e-books from Amazon... there are plenty of other sources, provided you buy a compatible format. And, there are plenty of free ebooks, legally out of copyright, that you can get too, and they'll be unaffected, obviously.

Personally, I have had my Kindle (Wifi only) since last September, it has over 130 ebooks on it, and I still have yet to actually "buy" one... but then, I'm a bit weird and read a lot of *very* old mysteries.

You can use sites such as manybooks, feedbooks, gutenberg, archive.org (google them) for classics, etc. And I strongly suggest you download the Calibre (free) ebook management software. It'll handle all the stuff you *don't* get from Amazon, but have (egSmile on your PC and want to (convert to Kindle format if necessary and) transfer to your new toy!

Failing all this, you could, of course, use an anonymous proxy or a disguised proxy server to "pretend" you are in the UK, but that'll cost you a few quid a month... although it might be worth it as you'd be able to access other UK only services too.

Finally, this might not be a bad thing... I'm always being told that here in "rip off Britain" we're always being, well, ripped-off. Being "forced" to buy from Amazon USA may have advantages of cost, and will almost certainly give you access to authors that we cannot (yet?) buy.

Hope this helps...
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Offline Mike1948
18 Jul 2011, 10:45 AM | Post: #3

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RE: Downloading e Books

Hi Puss
Many thanks for the info. I will bear it all in mind.
Book for book Amazon UK seems cheaper for e Books than amazon USA.


(17 Jul 2011 07:14 PM)Thepuss Wrote:  
(17 Jul 2011 01:21 PM)Mike1948 Wrote:  I am keen to get started with Kindle by ordering a Kindle wi fi and downloading my choice of Kindle e books.
I live in Cyprus but have a BFPO (i.e London UK) delivery and billing address, a UK Sterling Debit Card, and pay UK VAT for Amazon goods ordered from the Amazon UK website. There seems to be no problem in obtaining the Kindle itself from Amazon UK. However, I am informed that because I live outside the UK I can only download e Books from Amazon.com. Stangely I am told by Amazon.com that although I can buy books from them I can only buy the Kindle itself from Amazon UK!! This seems a strange anomoly and not justified by any legal, tax, or web constraints. I am not sure if Kindle via UK and the e Books via USA poses any problems and in any event the choice and pricing is entirely different across the two web sites. I cannot see why it is not possible to buy the Kindle and e Books from the same location. Any ideas/suggestions?

You "may" need an answer from someone who knows the facts about Wifi and 3G, too.

There is a thread about the 3G access to various sites, which may be a (separate) issue, because of the whispernet contracts that Amazon uses with national mobile network providers, but this is not relevant if you are buying a Wifi Only Kindle.

Of course, you do not *have* to buy all your e-books from Amazon... there are plenty of other sources, provided you buy a compatible format. And, there are plenty of free ebooks, legally out of copyright, that you can get too, and they'll be unaffected, obviously.

Personally, I have had my Kindle (Wifi only) since last September, it has over 130 ebooks on it, and I still have yet to actually "buy" one... but then, I'm a bit weird and read a lot of *very* old mysteries.

You can use sites such as manybooks, feedbooks, gutenberg, archive.org (google them) for classics, etc. And I strongly suggest you download the Calibre (free) ebook management software. It'll handle all the stuff you *don't* get from Amazon, but have (egSmile on your PC and want to (convert to Kindle format if necessary and) transfer to your new toy!

Failing all this, you could, of course, use an anonymous proxy or a disguised proxy server to "pretend" you are in the UK, but that'll cost you a few quid a month... although it might be worth it as you'd be able to access other UK only services too.

Finally, this might not be a bad thing... I'm always being told that here in "rip off Britain" we're always being, well, ripped-off. Being "forced" to buy from Amazon USA may have advantages of cost, and will almost certainly give you access to authors that we cannot (yet?) buy.

Hope this helps...
Puss
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Offline AndyBSG Reading The Painted Man
18 Jul 2011, 02:57 PM | Post: #4

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RE: Downloading e Books

I'd recommend asking over on the Amazon Kindle forum at http://www.amazon.co.uk...

Someone over there will know the answer and there's been a few discussion threads on it.

As far as i'm aware, if you have a UK address on your Amazon account then you shouldn't have any problems downloading from .co.uk, regardless of geographical location.

I know i've been abroad several times since getting my Kindle and had no problem downloading books while abroad but that was with the 3G version rather than Wi-fi
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18 Jul 2011, 09:40 PM | Post: #5

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RE: Downloading e Books

I think the thing here is the BFPO issue. Amazon will probably count that as UK, although you may be able to send an email to Amazon and get the VAT back from books (only used this for BFPO 655 so not within the EU).
Might be worth trying the local address for a delivery, but that's pure conjecture I'm afraid - it'll be next year before I can try to order from Akrotiri myself...)
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