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Offline Jan Hurst-Nicholson Reading Haven't got a Kindle. A big pile of books.
30 Jun 2018, 09:14 AM | Post: #1

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Perhaps you are not aware that books borrowed through the KU programme and read in page flip mode are not credited with page reads. This has been confirmed in an email from KDP. You can read a discussion about it here  http://www.kboards.com/index.php/topic,264464.0.html
  
Maybe readers should also be made aware of this.
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30 Jun 2018, 09:58 AM | Post: #2

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RE: Authors are not paid for pages read in page flip mode

This post was last modified: 30 Jun 2018 10:31 AM by Campbell.
Amazon's response on this has been awful: we're not seeing material reading happening using this feature.

Well duh! Because they designed it to be invisible.

Their second line of argument always seems to be 'It doesn't affect the share of the pot materially' presumably on the theory that when it's a share of a pot, if everyone is hit equally then nobody is hit because the proportions remain the same. That's a bit of an assumption as not everyone will be hit equally as you demonstrated AND it means we're materially underreporting billions of pages read (which Amazon are contractually obliged to pay for - even if they get to arbitrarily define both what a page is and how much a page pays). At best it's hiding a precipitatious drop in the KU per page rate since the introduction of Page Flip. At worst it's quasi-criminal.
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30 Jun 2018, 10:29 AM | Post: #3

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RE: Authors are not paid for pages read in page flip mode

This post was last modified: 30 Jun 2018 10:30 AM by Anna Faversham.
If we all start sharing this news with newspapers online and off and everywhere else we can think of, then it is more likely something will happen. That's the best I can offer if I want to keep my cool...
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Offline Jan Hurst-Nicholson Reading Haven't got a Kindle. A big pile of books.
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RE: Authors are not paid for pages read in page flip mode

(30 Jun 2018 10:29 AM)Anna Faversham Wrote: Wrote:  If we all start sharing this news with newspapers online and off and everywhere else we can think of, then it is more likely something will happen. That's the best I can offer if I want to keep my cool...
Yes. We need to make readers aware of this. I think most readers assume that Amazon will take the hit if they use page flip mode.
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Offline Anna Faversham Reading
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RE: Authors are not paid for pages read in page flip mode

I see that your comment re page flip has been disallowed on Support for Indie Authors. Of all the groups on GR, this one disallows the most comments.
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Offline Jan Hurst-Nicholson Reading Haven't got a Kindle. A big pile of books.
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RE: Authors are not paid for pages read in page flip mode

(30 Jun 2018 05:58 PM)Anna Faversham Wrote: Wrote:  I see that your comment re page flip has been disallowed on Support for Indie Authors. Of all the groups on GR, this one disallows the most comments.
They didn't like the link. Looks like links are not allowed. Undecided
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