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Offline Daphne Reading Wanted by Tim Arnot
12 Nov 2015, 08:51 AM | Post: #11

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RE: Amazon Alternatives

(11 Nov 2015 07:09 PM)Ken Magee Wrote: Wrote:  Thanks to everyone for their input.

No one seems to have made much headway outside Amazon, but I do like Daphne's tip about using her 'Amazon Word document' on D2D and then using the resultant ePub on Smashwords. That works for a lazy man like me.
Bear in mind that Smashwords automatically opts you in to distribution on all channels. If you just want to be on sale on Smashwords you need to go to Dashboard - Channel Manager and opt out of any outlets which you are being distributed to via D2D so you don't end up with duplicates.
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12 Nov 2015, 11:32 AM | Post: #12

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RE: Amazon Alternatives

Again, thanks to everyone for their comments.

I think I have a plan:
  • run a final Free Book Promotion for Dark Tidings (book #1) before taking it out of Select.
  • use the current Word document for D2D (I trust you, Daphne) and bang the resultant ePub into Smashwords
  • sit back and watch the sales roll in (an extra 80-100 a month would be very welcome, Cecilia)
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RE: Amazon Alternatives

I use Smashwords for iBooks, B&N [had to correct myself from B&B - must need a holiday Smile], Kobo, etc. I've found Smashwords good to work with.

Amazon is my largest outlet by far, but I could live off my iBooks and B&N earnings if I had to (and was willing to give up all luxuries). B&N numbers are slowly decreasing for me, but Apple's are steadily rising, and when I've been chosen for one of their promos they really take off. Kobo has gone from tiny figures to being reliably three figures a month. I was in a Smashwords-based Kobo promo recently, which will make this month an extra good one there.

Lots of people do really well out of being exclusive on Amazon, but for me having my books widely available is working out nicely.
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Offline Daphne Reading Wanted by Tim Arnot
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Very nice work, Shayne. Good to hear of someone doing so well outside (as well as inside) Amazon.

Prompted by this thread I have finally got round to totting up my "other outlets" sales numbers. Like others, they are not a patch on my overall Amazon sales - but they do run to over 1000 in total. And I am just pleased to have a presence on places like B&N, Kobo and Apple. But good luck also to those who find that Amazon exclusivity works best for them. And good luck to you, Ken.Smile
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Offline Ken Magee Reading Leaving Berlin by Joseph Kanon
16 Nov 2015, 04:49 PM | Post: #15

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RE: Amazon Alternatives

Thanks Shayne and Daphne. As I said, I've been encouraged to give the alternatives a go... we'll see whether it works for me or not.
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Offline Ken Magee Reading Leaving Berlin by Joseph Kanon
24 Feb 2016, 12:34 PM | Post: #16

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This post was last modified: 24 Feb 2016 12:34 PM by Ken Magee.
I have at last got round to taking Dark Tidings out of KDP and popping it onto all the Draft2Digital supported sites (24 Symbols, Apple, Barnes & Noble, Kobo, Page Foundry, Scribd and Tolino).

The process was fairly straightforward although I ended up creating an epub using Calibre and then uploading the epub into Draft2Digital.

Now, does anyone have any advice about the best places to spread the news? For example, how does one get in the mix to be chosen for an Apple promo... Shayne?
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When I've been in Apple (and Kobo) promos it's been through having Smashwords recommend a book for a retailer's promotion, Ken, so I'm no help at all when it comes to D2D, sorry! You could probably ask the support people at D&D how to go about being considered for a promo, though.

Whenever I've had a BookBub promo (most recently last month) it's given me a huge boost across the retailers, but those don't tend to be easily come by!
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Offline Ken Magee Reading Leaving Berlin by Joseph Kanon
25 Feb 2016, 11:03 AM | Post: #18

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RE: Amazon Alternatives

(24 Feb 2016 10:35 PM)Shayne Parkinson Wrote: Wrote:  When I've been in Apple (and Kobo) promos it's been through having Smashwords recommend a book for a retailer's promotion, Ken, so I'm no help at all when it comes to D2D, sorry! You could probably ask the support people at D&D how to go about being considered for a promo, though.

Whenever I've had a BookBub promo (most recently last month) it's given me a huge boost across the retailers, but those don't tend to be easily come by!
Thanks Shayne, I'll definitely try D2D support. I've also been advised to add an Apple buy button to my website... apparently it helps them find you and may put you in the mix for a promo.
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Offline Ken Magee Reading Leaving Berlin by Joseph Kanon
18 Mar 2016, 07:30 PM | Post: #19

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Well, I've given it a go. For the month I've been on 24 Symbols, Apple, Barnes & Noble, Kobo, Page Foundry, Scribd and Tolino via D2D and I've sold 1 book (on Apple).

It's true that I haven't done any marketing but that's because I have no idea where to channel my efforts. I did contact D2D support and was told most sites would not support me unless all my books were available... that put me in a chicken and egg situation i.e. I wanted to try one book on other channels and only if it was successful would I pull my all my writing out of KDP.

Bottom line? I'm withdrawing Dark Tidings from all D2D sites and will return to KDP where my borrows earn me a decent amount.

Overall, I'm glad I gave it a go but I'm now a full-blooded Amazon man.
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Thanks for sharing this, Ken. It looks to me like D2D is as it was a few years ago, i.e. it hasn't managed to break Amazon's near-monopoly, and for most people the extra features of KDP select are better alternative.
I would add that one useful aspect of Smashwords/D2D is if you want to make something permafree on Amazon - e.g. a short that you can't justify charging for. You publish it free on D2D/Smashwords and use the 'tell us about a lower price' feature. I'm assuming that's how everyone else makes ebooks permafree anyway.
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