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Offline Rosen Trevithick Reading
09 Aug 2014, 10:01 AM | Post: #11

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RE: Amazon Email (Readers United) Ramps Up the Debate

I can't imagine a traditional publisher being swayed by a crowd of indies.
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10 Aug 2014, 07:23 AM | Post: #12

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RE: Amazon Email (Readers United) Ramps Up the Debate

This post was last modified: 10 Aug 2014 07:43 AM by Daphne.
Well, I've read quite a lot of discussion on the internet about this email and the Amazon/Hachette dispute in general. My favourite comment was that the two were behaving like drunken parents in the throes of a divorce trying to get the children to take sides. I also like the idea that Amazon is already producing an army of robots who can write books - and another army of robot readers.

On the whole I don't find it the least bit surprising that two big businesses are both trying their best to look after their own interests. And if it comes to "sides" I am probably on Amazon's. They have provided me as a reader and a buyer with a great service over many years, and I think they have given all authors - myself included - a great opportunity to publish and sell their books.

I don't know much about Hachette, but I think that publishers who are trying to retain the sort of exclusive hold that they had before self-publishing should accept the way the world has changed. I would certainly speak out in support of Amazon, but I am not quite comfortable emailing Hachette, as I have no personal experience with them and feel no particular animosity towards them. They are doing their best to preserve their business. I think they will have to adapt to changes in the end, and to embrace lower prices for eBooks, but I can hardly blame them for trying to hang on to the good old days.
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RE: Amazon Email (Readers United) Ramps Up the Debate

(09 Aug 2014 09:38 AM)Gordon Bickerstaff Wrote: Wrote:  I think it's an unrealistic move by Amazon.
If Hatchet ignored Amazon - what is the chance of them taking any notice of authors?

(09 Aug 2014 10:01 AM)Rosen Trevithick Wrote: Wrote:  I can't imagine a traditional publisher being swayed by a crowd of indies.
No, only a few (perhaps a lot) of their blockbuster authors could sway Hatchette I should think. Or readers maybe, boycotting high-priced e-books.

We don't seem to be affected as badly in the UK, as book prices are generally lower anyway.

Off topic: Looking through Patterson's list of books, he appears to be more of a brand than an author these days, with most of his recent stuff James Patterson and XXX (which I generally take as XXX wrote it, while <Insert Well Known Author>'s name is used to sell it). No wonder he's raking in $90+ million a year. 14 books in 2013, and 16 in 2014 (released or planned). Before the 'with' stuff he managed 2-3 a year.

The good news is, I don't read any of Hachette's authors (won't be buying any more Gladwell after he admitted his books are BS, basically), and I don't pre-order books, so it doesn't affect me, which means I can officially take the stance of: I don't give a damn.

Now, everyone back to writing (or in case of Mr Patterson, getting someone else to write for you).
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RE: Amazon Email (Readers United) Ramps Up the Debate

This post was last modified: 10 Aug 2014 06:24 PM by Ken Magee.
(10 Aug 2014 03:31 PM)leep Wrote: Wrote:   Off topic: Looking through Patterson's list of books, he appears to be more of a brand than an author these days, with most of his recent stuff James Patterson and XXX (which I generally take as XXX wrote it, while <Insert Well Known Author>'s name is used to sell it). No wonder he's raking in $90+ million a year. 14 books in 2013, and 16 in 2014 (released or planned). Before the 'with' stuff he managed 2-3 a year.
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RE: Amazon Email (Readers United) Ramps Up the Debate

(10 Aug 2014 07:23 AM)Daphne Wrote: Wrote:  Well, I've read quite a lot of discussion on the internet about this email and the Amazon/Hachette dispute in general. My favourite comment was that the two were behaving like drunken parents in the throes of a divorce trying to get the children to take sides. I also like the idea that Amazon is already producing an army of robots who can write books - and another army of robot readers.

On the whole I don't find it the least bit surprising that two big businesses are both trying their best to look after their own interests. And if it comes to "sides" I am probably on Amazon's. They have provided me as a reader and a buyer with a great service over many years, and I think they have given all authors - myself included - a great opportunity to publish and sell their books.

I don't know much about Hachette, but I think that publishers who are trying to retain the sort of exclusive hold that they had before self-publishing should accept the way the world has changed. I would certainly speak out in support of Amazon, but I am not quite comfortable emailing Hachette, as I have no personal experience with them and feel no particular animosity towards them. They are doing their best to preserve their business. I think they will have to adapt to changes in the end, and to embrace lower prices for eBooks, but I can hardly blame them for trying to hang on to the good old days.

Well put, Daphne!
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