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Offline alexroddie Reading The Terror by Dan Simmons
24 Oct 2013, 10:07 AM | Post: #1

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Kindle subgenres

Forgive me if I'm simply being stupid and have missed something obvious, but I'm having trouble with Kindle subgenres and was hoping someone could help.

Having read David Gaughran's recent blogpost on historical fiction subgenres I decided to try re-categorising The Only Genuine Jones. The subgenre I would like to use is Scottish Historical Fiction. However, when I try to change the genre in the KPD control panel, I get only the option for "historical", with no subgenres whatsoever.

   

Am I correct in thinking that all these wonderful new subgenres are for Amazon.com only, and that UK authors are left out in the cold? Anyone know if/when we will be able to take advantage of the new subgenres? Or am I simply doing it wrong? Tongue Thanks all...

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(24 Oct 2013 10:07 AM)alexroddie Wrote: Wrote:  Forgive me if I'm simply being stupid and have missed something obvious, but I'm having trouble with Kindle subgenres and was hoping someone could help.

Having read David Gaughran's recent blogpost on historical fiction subgenres I decided to try re-categorising The Only Genuine Jones. The subgenre I would like to use is Scottish Historical Fiction. However, when I try to change the genre in the KPD control panel, I get only the option for "historical", with no subgenres whatsoever.



Am I correct in thinking that all these wonderful new subgenres are for Amazon.com only, and that UK authors are left out in the cold? Anyone know if/when we will be able to take advantage of the new subgenres? Or am I simply doing it wrong? Tongue Thanks all...

I'm not 100% sure about this Alex but, I've got a feeling you would have to make a request for Amazon to put you in that category if it isn't in the drop down menu.
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24 Oct 2013, 07:53 PM | Post: #3

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RE: Kindle subgenres

Subgenres weren't working for me a couple weeks ago. It seemed to be an Amazon glitch.
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Offline Grace Elliot Reading Demelza.
24 Oct 2013, 08:22 PM | Post: #4

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I've always been really puzzled by this whole 'category' thing. Each time I publish a book I set it up with the intention of maximising the impact of the categories (form what I've read the theory is to wheedle your way into a less busy category to stand more chance of hitting a top spot) - and each time I end up ticking the same old boxes.
Perhaps it's one of those things like 'gifting' that is only available in the US.
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25 Oct 2013, 12:17 AM | Post: #5

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RE: Kindle subgenres

Some of the subcategories are only achieved by adding certain keywords - see https://kdp.amazon.com... for a list. Others I think can only be got by emailing KDP and asking them to put you in that category (no, I don't know what those categories are!) And the categories you can get into seems to be dictated by country too, although there's nothing I've seen that says what categories are or aren't available in a particular country.

It all seems to be rather messy, IMO.
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Offline navlogan Reading Faust 2.0 by Michael Brookes
25 Oct 2013, 06:14 AM | Post: #6

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This whole difference between .com and .co.uk does my head in. You can only leave a review on one or the other, too. Why is there such a barrier in place? I'm sure it doesn't help UK authors break into the American (and Irish) market, and visa-versa.
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25 Oct 2013, 06:38 AM | Post: #7

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Likewise.
I've found setting genres for my books puzzling and messy and just plain wrong. You see a book listed under a genre and want your book to go in that one - only to find out you can't choose it. The genres listed when you're shopping aren't quite the same as those available when you're publishing.
I just trust readers will find any book if they look hard enough, and there's that bit of randomness which means some will stumble across it without looking for it.
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Offline navlogan Reading Faust 2.0 by Michael Brookes
25 Oct 2013, 06:48 AM | Post: #8

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(25 Oct 2013 06:38 AM)Ray Kingfisher Wrote: Wrote:  Likewise.
I've found setting genres for my books puzzling and messy and just plain wrong. You see a book listed under a genre and want your book to go in that one - only to find out you can't choose it. The genres listed when you're shopping aren't quite the same as those available when you're publishing.
I just trust readers will find any book if they look hard enough, and there's that bit of randomness which means some will stumble across it without looking for it.

Its not even as if the split is caused by the difference in spelling between US and UK. I live in Ireland, and use English (UK) for my grammar, but Ireland is part of .com. Despite this, and the fact that there is a good splattering of Gaelic words in my books, I do ok in the US sales, but my reviews are split between .com and .co.uk. I could understand if it was a non english speaking country like spain or france (I have better sales in Africa than France!) If I could see a reason for this UK /.com split, it would help. Do UK authors find it beneficial, to have a specialised market dealing only with UK sales?
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25 Oct 2013, 09:24 AM | Post: #9

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(25 Oct 2013 06:48 AM)navlogan Wrote: Wrote:  
(25 Oct 2013 06:38 AM)Ray Kingfisher Wrote: Wrote:  Likewise.
I've found setting genres for my books puzzling and messy and just plain wrong. You see a book listed under a genre and want your book to go in that one - only to find out you can't choose it. The genres listed when you're shopping aren't quite the same as those available when you're publishing.
I just trust readers will find any book if they look hard enough, and there's that bit of randomness which means some will stumble across it without looking for it.

Its not even as if the split is caused by the difference in spelling between US and UK. I live in Ireland, and use English (UK) for my grammar, but Ireland is part of .com. Despite this, and the fact that there is a good splattering of Gaelic words in my books, I do ok in the US sales, but my reviews are split between .com and .co.uk. I could understand if it was a non english speaking country like spain or france (I have better sales in Africa than France!) If I could see a reason for this UK /.com split, it would help. Do UK authors find it beneficial, to have a specialised market dealing only with UK sales?

I don't really see any advantage in the split. I'd prefer it if the whole world (or, at least, the English speaking world) used .com with one set of reviews - I've had virtually no sales apart from .com and .co.uk. It's also annoying that the UK site links to US reviews, but not vv.
Regarding US sales, my personal sales imply Americans don't mind UK English, but will hardly touch anything not set in the US.
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Nav, I didn't realise that Ireland came under the .com umbrella. Undecided

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