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Kindle says 'NO!' to title stuffing - Hooray!

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Offline Raúl Sánchez Gilo Reading
10 Mar 2017, 05:37 PM | Post: #211

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RE: Kindle says 'NO!' to title stuffing - Hooray!

(04 Mar 2013 01:53 PM)LindaGruchy Wrote: Wrote:  Oh dear, I hope they don't get sniffy about my latest.
The extra words were just used to add more and more keywords to the title to get better searches. 
I agree with the new amazon policy, but on the other hand, they could also add the possibility of adding more than 7 keywords in the definition, as youtube style, which leaves about 20 or more keywords in the description of each video. I think 7 is short.
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10 Mar 2017, 06:18 PM | Post: #212

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RE: Kindle says 'NO!' to title stuffing - Hooray!

This post was last modified: 10 Mar 2017 06:19 PM by Rosen Trevithick.
(10 Mar 2017 05:37 PM)Raúl Sánchez Gilo Wrote: Wrote:  The extra words were just used to add more and more keywords to the title to get better searches. 

I know. That's my problem.

(10 Mar 2017 05:37 PM)Raúl Sánchez Gilo Wrote: Wrote:  I agree with the new amazon policy, but on the other hand, they could also add the possibility of adding more than 7 keywords in the definition, as youtube style, which leaves about 20 or more keywords in the description of each video. I think 7 is short.

You do get more than seven keywords. You get categories and a blurb field to describe your book too.

I'm with Amazon on this one. It's rather annoying providing people with categories then having to spend my mornings editing down titles like 'Hat (a thriller)'.
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12 Mar 2017, 03:51 AM | Post: #213

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RE: Kindle says 'NO!' to title stuffing - Hooray!

(04 Mar 2013 12:55 PM)Rosen Trevithick Wrote: Wrote:  "Please enter the exact title only. Books submitted with extra words in this field will not be published" says the Kindle dashboard.

Hooray! No more books called "Blah (a sexy, dangerous, well-written adventure) (Blah thriller series book 1) (the alive Stieg Larsson) (proofread)".

Amazon goes on to explain:
"In order to provide the best possible tools for independent publishers, and the best experience for your readers, Kindle Direct Publishing does not publish content that is intentionally confusing or misleading. Book titles that are unnecessarily long, or contain extraneous terms, can lead to inaccurate or overwhelming search results and impair readers' ability to make good buying decisions."
I just wanted to point out that Amazon has never enforced this that I know of. Not Amazon.com, anyway. Even if you complain and quote their own policy back to them. Here, you can try it yourself: https://www.amazon.com/EROTICA-FOURSOME-BISEXUAL-THREESOME-COLLECTION-ebook/dp/B06XCGMSZ3

Here's the actual title:

Quote: EROTICA: SEX STORIES: 45 GROUP GANG MENAGE BOOKS: MMF MFM MMMF MMFM FOURSOME, BISEXUAL THREESOME, ROUGH ALPHA MALES, BBW MATURE WOMAN, EROTICA SHORT STORIES FOR WOMEN BUNDLE COLLECTION 


I believe this is the reason Amazon won't touch it:

Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #2,688 Paid in Kindle Store (See Top 100 Paid in Kindle Store) You can put anything you want in your title as long as they are making money, as far as I can tell.
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RE: Kindle says 'NO!' to title stuffing - Hooray!

Ha ha! Classic.

Amazon do enforce it. Not often, but they do. That's what the Kboards discussion Jan linked to was about. Not sure if that was a UK or US author though.
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RE: Kindle says 'NO!' to title stuffing - Hooray!

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(30 Apr 2016 05:10 PM)Jan Hurst-Nicholson Wrote: Wrote:  [quote pid=181512 dateline=1462020250]

I can't see any advantage in having an audio sample. I'd prefer to read an excerpt rather than listen to it as it's much quicker (and you can check for spelling and grammar errors  :rolleyesSmile


My daughter has a very long commute to work and she listens to books. Many books. She actually has no time to read books, anymore (time eaten by commute) and I don't think she's unusual in that.

So why should we listen to our own books? Because how something "sounds" to our inner ear when we are reading is not the same as when we listen.  We lose a great deal of information when we listen - writers control the pace of reading with punctuation and spacing and sentence length and graph size. You can lose a lot, and listeners get lost in what to a reader is a great few moments floating in the prose.  Listeners also get lost in something runs by too quickly, words or syntax that, in audible versions, are impossible to decipher. The listener can't stop and go back, not easily. 

I don't listen to my books. But I think I should. Anyway, I think it's probably dead useful.
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