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Offline Rosen Trevithick Reading
18 Jan 2013, 09:53 PM | Post: #11

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RE: CreateSpace Versus FeedARead

That's super Damien. Exactly what I needed, thanks.

When you say 'Worked out at approx £4.90 per copy' do you mean for each proof including P&P, or is that the price of each proof, or the price of P&P on each proof?

I'm a bit unclear because I've heard that proofs can cost almost £20 each. Is it much cheaper because you bought in bulk or because you're only referring to one part of the charge?
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Offline Damien J. Nash Reading Flux by Mark. R. Faulkner
18 Jan 2013, 10:16 PM | Post: #12

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RE: CreateSpace Versus FeedARead

As I say, I didn't order a hardcopy proof. I approved the digital representation of the proof as I was confident that with the level of detail I could see online, I knew what I was getting.

That said, proof copies cost the same as author copies.

My 5" x 8" 242 page book costs $3.75 plus shipping.

Shipping for that one copy (for me) is....

$3.88 for 31 days delivery plus printing time
$7.99 for expidited (8 days plus printing time)
$14.38 for priorty (2 days plus printing time)

For my 12 copies, I paid...

12 x $3.75 = $45 and Priority shipping at $37.99 Totalling $82.99.

In our money that's about £59 at the exchange rate my credit card gave me. Divided by 12 and that's £4.90ish a copy. Sold for £7 each and that's £2.10 profit, all mine and still likely more than what a trad published author would see.

If I weren't in any rush, I could have paid $65.99 (or £47 or £3.90ish a copy)

Postage for 50 copies is....

$57.99 Standard 31 business days
$68.49 Expedited 8 business days
$78.49 Priority 2 business days

Top rate of $265.99 or £3.80 or
Cheap rate of $245.49 or £3.50 per copy

(Prices quoted all for a 242 page 5x8 paperback with cream paper.
Offline Rosen Trevithick Reading
18 Jan 2013, 10:34 PM | Post: #13

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RE: CreateSpace Versus FeedARead

Thanks for expanding.

So, is it still cheaper to get author copies shipped from the US and pay the postage than to buy your copies from Amazon UK and get free postage, given that the latter way generates royalties?
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Offline Damien J. Nash Reading Flux by Mark. R. Faulkner
18 Jan 2013, 10:42 PM | Post: #14

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RE: CreateSpace Versus FeedARead

Well I guess that depends on the price you set for Amazon. I put a rrp of £7.99
Amazon discounts that to £7.19 but you still get the same royalty as 7.99.

I get about £1.67 per copy sold in the UK so 1 copy via Amazon would eventually cost me £5.52

So yes, based on my figures, I'm still better off ordering direct.
Offline Damien J. Nash Reading Flux by Mark. R. Faulkner
18 Jan 2013, 10:52 PM | Post: #15

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RE: CreateSpace Versus FeedARead

The only caveat is the £100 threshold for UK royalties.

I've only sold 2 copies to the UK so far (to unknowns) through Amazon so I'm a long way away from seeing a payout. Tbh I don't expect to sell £100s worth. So its a bit of a vanity venture, for me at least.

I'm not planning to do a paperback version of Uprising, but I'm glad I did Firestone in paperback.
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18 Jan 2013, 10:53 PM | Post: #16

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RE: CreateSpace Versus FeedARead

Interesting to know. Looks like the P&P on FeedARead author copies is much less than with CreateSpace, but it sounds as though the copies themselves are cheaper, making up the difference.
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Offline Rosen Trevithick Reading
22 Jan 2013, 04:43 PM | Post: #17

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RE: CreateSpace Versus FeedARead

Anybody else have anything to add about CreateSpace please?

If I get two or three more responses then I'll draw an updated table.
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Offline George Hamilton
22 Jan 2013, 05:50 PM | Post: #18

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RE: CreateSpace Versus FeedARead

I used CS a couple of years ago now for my first book. The first proof was not very good, and I ordered a second which was the same - glue seeping from the spine onto the pages. I moved to LSI because of this, and also because the cost for me to buy copies to give away was cheaper.
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22 Jan 2013, 06:01 PM | Post: #19

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RE: CreateSpace Versus FeedARead

Interesting. I wonder if they have improved or whether you were just very unlucky. Who prints CreateSpace books? I'm pretty sure that Lightening Source print for FeedARead and they're lovely quality.
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RE: CreateSpace Versus FeedARead

(22 Jan 2013 06:01 PM)Rosen Trevithick Wrote:  Interesting. I wonder if they have improved or whether you were just very unlucky. Who prints CreateSpace books? I'm pretty sure that Lightening Source print for FeedARead and they're lovely quality.

I had a createspace book and the quality was excellent.
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